I’m going to the States next week, so may not get much time to blog for a while. I thought you might like a little more material to peruse on the superb Javier Marías, subject of my recent 3-part critique here at Tredynas Days. There follow links to three fascinating podcasts in which Marías is interviewed.
Live From the New York Public Library (this link takes you to the whole list of podcasts; scroll down to the date of broadcast –3 Dec. 2009, three days after vol. 3 of Your Face Tomorrow [YFT] was published in the USA – then click on the MP3 icon).
This interview hosted by Paul Holdengräber is just over 90 minutes long, and allows him to afford the guest the opportunity to expand upon his literary themes, writing style, notions of translation, and so on. Javier Marías’ humour is evident, as he playfully suggests he doesn’t know when he starts a novel exactly where it will go; he uses a compass for direction, he says, not a map! He talks about translating Sterne, whose cock and bull shaggy-dog story Tristram Shandy is obviously a key influence on YFT, and he reveals that the huge portion of the novel sequence devoted to the scene where Tupra pulls out an antique sword and brandishes it over De la Garza’s cringing head (it runs to dozens of pages, but lasts just a few seconds in real time) was inspired by the moment in Don Quijote where the hero confronts a foe (the Vizcaino or Basque) and a sword fight seems imminent; an equally lengthy digression ensues, but the combatants are left poised, swords aloft, and the scene is never resumed! At least, Javier Marías jokes, he finished his scene!
(It’s worth noting that there’s a great deal of complex narrative play in the Quixote: Sancho Panza is unsure about the source of the soubriquet he gives to his dolefully countenanced master; Cervantes twines his narrative around related lexical sets involving the truthful representation of the ‘triste figura’ of Quixote on his shield, thus ambiguously mediating between Quixote’s true ‘rostro’ (face), the ‘imagen’ on his shield representing that sad, gaunt face and the impact this has on those who look at it, and the name given to Quixote (which, like Deza’s in YFT, varies according to whom he’s with). Similarly the MS illustration of the battle with the Basque alluded to in ch. 9 of Part 1 of the novel differs from the earlier description of the battle itself; it tells a different story. This failure to weave together the ‘signs’ with the ‘face’ anticipates the moment in the inn when ‘sign’ and ‘face’ are slowly brought together, because Sancho ‘no era buen lector’ (wasn’t a good reader) – see the chapter: ‘The matter of naming in Don Quixote’ in Unspeakable Subjects: the genealogy of the event in early modern Europe, by Jacques Lezra [not ‘Deza’!] (Stanford UP, 1997). Here in Cervantes’ playful, slippery narrative ambiguities we can see where much of Marías’ inspiration came from.)
Another major literary influence on him, of course, is Proust, whose writings are ‘systems of parenthesis’ –a great phrase for describing Javier Marías’ own work– who also likes to give time its ‘real duration’, for this is where real action and feeling lie. Although this slowness of narrative pace, with its long, apparently irrelevant digressions can be irritating for the reader, he concedes, if we show patience we will be rewarded. So in this scene with Tupra and the sword our natural inclination is to want to know what happens next; the lengthy delay is a homage to Cervantes, and brings its own aesthetic pleasure, above and beyond the simplistic gratification of turning the page to achieve narrative closure. As Marías says, he loves watching films and reading page-turner novels, but rarely remembers soon afterwards what the plot consisted of. Action and plot aren’t particularly interesting to him. Marías prefers to see plot as ‘bait’; there are other things to savour in literature (and in his own novels): he requires us to stop, pause, reflect, think.
A final revelation is made near the end of this interview: he writes, he says, ‘suicidally’ – as I noted earlier, he doesn’t map out his plots in detail as most writers do. In a 1200-word novel sequence like YFT this caused him some headaches; because he doesn’t use a computer for writing with he couldn’t readily find detailed references to, for example, colours of characters’ eyes, so maintaining consistency and continuity was tricky. He didn’t even know, he says, until very late in the writing, what the cause or source of the bloodstain on Wheeler’s stair – a motif which recurs constantly throughout the three volumes -actually was– or even if he’d reveal it at all.
It’s a delightful interview, full of wit and intelligence: well worth listening to.
Back in 2010 the inimitable Michael Silverblatt interviewed Javier Marías on his KCRW podcast show, Bookworm. With his deceptively soft, slow way of speaking Silverblatt has the ability to ask probing, intelligent questions that evidently inspire the respect and affection of his guests – he’s always worth listening to, and I’d recommend you subscribe to the series. Each broadcast lasts around 25 minutes.
Bookworm interview pt 1: THU FEB 18, 2010
‘What if Henry James —the patron saint of convolution— could be resurrected? What if he wrote a novel of espionage so complex it became a trilogy?’ (from the KCRW Bookworm podcast website)
Bookworm interview pt 2: THU FEB 25, 2010
‘What if ten minutes of espionage took a hundred pages to fully describe? Here we explore time and consciousness in what will possibly be the greatest trilogy of our new century.‘
Tredynas Days, June 14, 2013